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Alright, welcome back everyone to another episode of Dynamics Corner.
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You know, brad, one thing I did recently is got my LASIK done, so I don't wear my glasses no more.
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No more reflection of this episode.
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One thing I did notice, though, that it takes a lot of time.
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I spent more time in preparation leading up to the LASIK and the whole thing was only, like you know, three minutes max, and I was done out the door.
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But, which is very fitting, that we're going to talk about things that you can do to prepare.
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So I'm looking forward to this conversation.
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So I'm your co-host, chris.
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And this is Brad.
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This episode was recorded on September 5th 2025.
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Chris, chris, chris LASIK, you have to watch out for a little while because you're going to have those ghost glasses.
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I didn't see you pushing up in this episode.
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I didn't notice it, but hopefully that goes away.
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Hopefully your site.
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You have some improvement with your site there with the LASIK.
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It's amazing what they can do with technology and just like that.
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We have a lot of amazing individuals in our community and with us that.
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We have a lot of amazing individuals in our community and with us today.
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We had the opportunity to speak with one and we also had the opportunity to speak with that individual on an important topic.
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We had the opportunity to talk about 10 tips for moving from GP Great Plains to Business Central and with us today we were joined by Microsoft MVP David Laster you think so yeah, I know something good afternoon you know, I really like that room.
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It's his little american flag painted on the wall.
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It is Actually, yeah, that's my door.
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Yeah, here, this goes out to the yard.
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That's my patio.
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I got a fire pit.
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That's where I do all my thinking actually.
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It's sitting right there, but I like the wall because I see the blue around the window.
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Yeah, that's the plan.
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Is that new or was that on there last time and I just didn't notice it?
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I'm old, so it could be.
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You're getting there too, friend.
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No, that's been there, oh my gosh, since I built the shed probably 20, yeah, 21 years ago, maybe 22 years ago.
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You built it from scratch.
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Oh, the whole thing.
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Oh, dude, even the trusses that you can't see up there, oh yeah, yeah, this thing is storied.
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I got to say.
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We have to sit down.
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Well, when we get together, when I come up, it seems like we always have hit or miss, because we hope nobody's listening, but we try to get too many people together at the same time and we can never get anybody together.
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It to get too many people together at the same time and you can never get anybody together.
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It can be hard, it can be hard.
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Yeah, now we're.
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Now I'm drawing a stake drawing a line uh putting a stake, drawing a line in the sand, putting a stake in the ground what do they say?
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we're getting together, we're gonna do it, we're doing it.
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We're doing it next time.
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Uh, next time, which is good.
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No, it's great.
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I like that little shed and I didn't know that you were in a shed, so we have to hear that.
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I thought that it was a room, but I like that.
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I think he had mentioned that last time, when we first, when we first had you, david, I think you and I was like what did you look?
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I think it was like during winter or something.
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It was cold.
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You had like a, maybe a vest.
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Think at that time, probably you look like you're at outside.
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That's not uncommon, though, for up north I used to wear vests and sweatshirts, and stuff in the in the house as well too.
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Heat is expensive, um, and it gets cold, so it does.
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I have an infrared heater that I actually close this door off, and I use this door right here in the in the winter time to go in and out okay it's locked up right now because that's where my car is.
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But yeah, and then I got an infrared heater and it heats it.
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It's perfect in here, like about 62, even overnight.
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So the whole thing is 62 is perfect.
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You know it's so funny if you're in the north, 62 is nice and warm, that's perfect.
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I have my house set to 75 when I'm home.
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And it's cold for you and 78 when I'm not here.
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And I can honestly say there's been times that Do you have air in there?
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There's been times that I've been cold at 75.
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But then when I go back north, like I was just up there, I just came back it's 64 degrees and I'm like, oh, this is great, I come down here, 75 is freezing.
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I think you get used to that right, because, like for for us out here in the pacific northwest, anything above 80 is too hot.
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It's just too hot.
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It has to be between 68 and 75, that is the sweetest spot, but anything above that like gets to 80, it's just too hot.
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It has to be between 68 and 75, that is the sweetest spot, but anything above that like gets to 80, it's like everyone just complains how hot it is the sad state.
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We were all born to be outdoors, so exactly, whatever the temperature is.
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You know, we really should be outdoors a lot, hence my you know garden office.
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Honestly, is I really enjoy.
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Yeah, well, swings and temperature and of course, rain, snow, all that good stuff, yeah yeah, yeah, I'll have a new office set up up north pretty soon too, so hopefully you know, maybe when I reveal it or unveil it, see, I can't even talk.
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It's.
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It's.
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We never do episodes on fridays so here we are this is the why, and we'll have a big reveal.
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But with that, I've been looking forward to this conversation and it's timely, it's relevant, it's all of the above.
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Before we jump into it, can you tell us a little bit about yourself?
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Sure, thank you.
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David Laster is my name.
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I've been doing the Microsoft Dynamics ERP thing for over 25 years and love it.
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As you can see, I do it from my shed here.
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It comes from just about every angle but I really put a lot of my time and energy into helping people set ERP up right, ultimately to drive the reporting impact, the analytics that are the end result of doing it all the right way, in a clean way, you know, organized fashion.
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So I manage a team of folks that are really smart most of them way smarter than I am, that are developers that are functional, folks that span GP, power BI, business Central.
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Just really love what I do every day working at Greylock up here in the northeast north of Boston.
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Excellent, excellent, and you're doing it right you always surround yourself with people that are smarter than you.
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One, you can get things done and two, you can learn quite a bit.
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I do believe you become what you surround yourself with.
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You really do.
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You become your environment.
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So if you surround yourself with good people, you become a good person.
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If you surround yourself with bad people, you become a bad person, and everyone can use that definition.
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But you have some great experience and I have some hopes to discuss with you about a topic that surfaced years ago.
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When we first spoke with you, it started to murmur quite a bit, but now, over this past year, I've seen a lot of traction on this topic and a lot more people paying attention to the topic and executing this topic, and that is the GP to BC migration, or the GP to BC to BC migration or the GP to BC re-implementation, or whatever you'd like to phrase it.
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But moving from GP to business central is something that's been quite popular and with it I was hoping to get ready.
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Can I say what it is?
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David Laster's top 10 tips.
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I always would say top 10, but it could be more, could be less.
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But David Laster's top 10 tips?
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I always say top 10, but it could be more, could be less, but David Laster's top 10 tips Now setting the bar for you, for my moving from GP to Business Central.
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But before we get into that, for those that may not be aware what's going on with GP, GP.
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It works, it's a fantastic product.
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It's widely used, it's trusted, it's stable um it's accessible.
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But what's happening with great planes is that the um microsoft has announced that their future um dollars, investments and focus is going to be in cloud-based technologies, and that's not what Great Plains is.
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So they have announced the end of life for Dynamics GP in terms of getting new stuff, like getting new year-end updates to help run your payroll right.
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If you don't need certain compliance-based functionality like that, then you know what's going on with GP.
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You know could last you and your business a little bit longer and you can maybe potentially postpone, I think, the inevitable of going to the cloud in some way, shape or form with your ERP system or your accounting system, whatever it is you use.
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But a lot of people are very interested because you know a whole generation has passed in a lot of ways from when Great Plains was implemented, you know, for a lot of companies in the 90s, and it's not a replacement, it's a new journey.
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It's a continuation of the journey that your business may have started back then, just using much more modern technologies and approaches to really getting your business to the most optimal place that you can be.
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So Great Plains will work.
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It is working.
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But there's a new thing in town, you know, from the Microsoft side, and it's definitely worth taking a look at and learning about and, you know, not, getting, you know, bent out of shape.
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But there's change coming because the more we embrace that change, the more we can actually do good, we can find some efficiencies, you know, we can maybe solve some problems that are real headaches, and we just look the other way when our day-to-day is upon us.
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Is there a?
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date.
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Was there a date?
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The end of life?
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Yeah, it's 12-31 of 2029.
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So we're about four years out, a little over four years out right now.
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So with that you hit a key point.
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So GP or Great Planes all these names keep changing with Microsoft, but it was originally Great Planes, now it's GP has the end of life, which basically means, as you had mentioned, it ends the product support.
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They're not going to make new updates, you're not getting to get enhancements, but it doesn't mean that it will stop working on that day.
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So the panic that I've heard and had conversations with wow, it's the 12 of 29,.
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It will just stop working.
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That's not going to be the case, just like I know individuals using Division version 2009 and even earlier still and that stopped.
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It went out of support.
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What?
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15 years ago?
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I don't even remember how long ago it went.
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It was a very, very long time ago.
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But those, as you had mentioned, are looking to do a new journey.
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They have to.
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You know they're looking to move.
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It seems to be a good progression to move from GP to Business Central and there are differences between the applications and there's things to consider when you're moving from one application to the other as well.
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Like you said, you can get some improvements.
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You get a chance to reevaluate your business process and also maybe take advantage of some different technologies that may not be in the application that you're using.
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So with that, Like Copilot right Brad.
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Take advantage of Copilot.
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Take advantage of Copilot.
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I don't think GP will have Copilot if it's on-premise.
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We're waiting for that.
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SQL-based Cop-pilot studio object to light up, but it keeps.
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I think it disappeared.
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Actually there was a while where it was grayed out, you know, because they were still not quite ready to do that Interesting, and then they think it might have gone away.
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So, yeah, we were trying.
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On the GP side, you know we were all interested in it because you've got good structured data there that you know Copilot with a little training could probably do some good with.
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But without the SQL connector that's where our data is.
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So you know that would make it a little bit more difficult.
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So the cloud-based technology is clearly, you know, a reflection of that.
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Now we can use Copilot within and around Business Central, not something you're really going to get out of GP.
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So good comparison there.
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Okay, so if we could run down maybe some tips or suggestions or things to consider, you ready, you ready?
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Yeah, you know what?
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Speaking of co-pilot, I was getting ready for our call today thinking about what 10 tips to talk about, because there's a lot.
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You know you talk to anybody else that does what I do, which is help people get there.
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You know, from here they will tell you probably 10 different tips that I'm going to give you.
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So the reality is, you know, don't lock in your information to just one source, although I will provide 10 helpful tips don't get me wrong but talk to other people that may have gone through the experience as well, just in case you're you know they provide some perspective.
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That's just a little outside of what we have time to talk about today.
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So, and speaking of co-pilot, I took my 10 tips, brad, and you know all of us in our dynamics mindset now we're kind of fed this whole co-pilot thing and I took my 10 tips and tried to to to build a presentation with some pretty cool graphics and things.
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I'll share it with you when we're all said and done, just in case you end up finding that interesting.
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Oh, definitely, please share, please share yes.
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It took me hours and hours, and once I really broke what I needed Copilot to do down into smaller steps, it was able to digest it and work a lot more efficiently for me.
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So it's interesting, the more you play with some of that new technology, how much easier it is to leverage to your favor.
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So I'll send you those shots.
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That could be a good exercise as well as how to you know that's a whole how to use copilot.
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So many great people that are that are doing that right now, and there's a lot to learn from them.
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It is there is a lot to learn from them, and there's a lot to learn in general with it, because it seems, with new models, new technology is changing by the minute.
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So all right, all right.
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Are you ready for tip number one?
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Let's go.
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Tip number one I'd be curious what you guys think, but I would bet you at least the shining quarter that you'll probably agree.
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Work with a partner who understands your business, shares your goals.
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Work with a partner who understands your business, shares your goals and has a track record of delivering successful Business Central implementations in your line of business.
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Yes, that's a very good one.
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You have to understand the industry as much as you know, not just the application itself that's very important and how the business processes work within the application, because Business Central is full of features.
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You can do quite a bit with it and with that you have many different options not to the point where it's overwhelming or it's not manageable, but there are certain different options that you have.
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So if somebody can help and equate those options or the functionality to your business process so you can understand, it is helpful.
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That is a wonderful tip.
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Especially if you're industry, you don't want somebody that's really good, maybe at not-for-profit implementing your manufacturing for the first time.
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You know those kinds of considerations are are, you know, worth worth?
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You know, answering that question as you're going to go and pick a partner or work with a partner, and maybe you're and I hear other great folks in our sphere talk about this is maybe your current partner isn't the right partner for Business Central because of either a skill set or a product support match or something.
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So, you know, don't be afraid if your current partner is somebody that you know just isn't supporting Business Central, but that happens to be the path that you want to take.
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So there are plenty of great folks out there that can pick up that and help you make that smooth transition.
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Are you referencing to like?
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If you're a GP and you want to upgrade and talk to your GP partner, that GP partner may not be the right partner for you.
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That's a tough conversation to have right, especially if they've been your partner for so long.
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It's entirely possible they might not be doing.
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Business Central, though they might want to force you into another ERP system in terms of a different direction, and that might not be where you want to go.
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So there's a variety of reasons.
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Yeah, they can be uncomfortable, I'm sure, when it comes to it, Because it's really about picking the right partner To, I'm sure you know when it comes to, because it's really about picking the right partner you know, to win the race, you need to have the right team on the field, and if you're going to throw a lot of money at implementing an ERP system, I firmly believe the partner is probably the number one consideration.
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Yeah no, I think that is one of the things that's often overlooked is making sure you have someone that can go through that journey with you.
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Uh, it's not just.
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You know, chris is a partner.
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I'm gonna go with him because he's a good guy.
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Yeah, no, it's good, don't go.
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Yeah, that's good.
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I can't implement gp you can't even buy, you can't, you can't even buy great planes, uh, really that's true.
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You can't buy licenses, no more, you can only really do a subscription for just now, until end of life, and even after that you're supposed to just stop using it.
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So, um, if your business is growing, you know, and you want to try to borrow more licenses, you're really not in a position to do that anymore with gp, so you know another reason.
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So your hands are tied.
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You really have to decide.
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You really have to move.
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Just the decision of where you're going is going to be an important part, okay.
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So let's move over to tip number two.
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Tip two Audit your existing Dynamics GP environment by surveying and reviewing all of your GP product usage Keyword we know that in the business central lingo not only usage yes, your ISV or your third-party add-ins, customizations, modifications and integrations.
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Anything in or around your Great Plains environment needs to be reviewed, documented and sometimes you might be carrying some technical debt from a number of different products that you set up and you might have used with GP years ago but don't anymore.
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So while you're taking that survey, you're gathering intelligence about what you have that you need and what you have that you don't need, and then that really informs and hones in on some of the other tips right in terms of you know, assessing functionality in future state, what you need you know and how you can take what you've got, map it over to Business Central, but also let go.
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There's probably plenty of things you might have set up and started with and really just don't need anymore.
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So understanding, getting a really good baseline and having the team also talk about and ensure that the right features that are really set up and being used need to carry forward into your business central.
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I like that and I'd like to talk about that a little bit more, because I think this comes with even the implementation.
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So you're doing an audit and you're talking about looking at the functionality that you're using and evaluating what you're using.
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But I also like the point that you mentioned let go.
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Sometimes it's that, oh, I spent a lot of money on this feature.
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It has to move forward without even evaluating Do you still need that feature?
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And how could you do that process in Business Central without carrying that technical debt?
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And how could you do that process in Business Central without carrying that technical debt?
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So it's a combination of evaluating why, to validate that you need it and to see if that's still the same need for a process in Business Central and, as part of the audit, what about data?
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Should they do anything with their data as part of doing their audit?
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We have to get through a few more tips here, brad oh.
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I'm sorry, I like that analogy.
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I like that.
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You know, don't bring it just because you spend a lot of money.
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It just made me think about the analogy of a car.
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You know, remember back in the 90s where you could buy the CD player, cassette and you can remove the faceplate oh yeah, Like it's so fancy and you have like a 30 cd player.
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I swear right.
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But then, like it's like someone saying like, hey, I'm gonna get a modern car, but he already has a built-in car play and all of a sudden I really want that, I want to take that with me.
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It doesn't fit anywhere, so that's, it's another way to look at it.
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Uh, from that I was just thinking about a car the other day yeah, no, no.
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It's true.
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It's true.
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It's that technical debt and those sunken costs of what you put into implementation.
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You just need to let it go and not get tied to it.
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But doing a good audit of what you have and the features that you need help you for a better implementation, but also help you make the choice of where you're going to go with your implementation.
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Again, we're talking GP to BC, but it also just revalidates your decision as well, just to make sure that it's going to support your business.
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I like that.
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Yeah, One of the key things I do.
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You know I mentioned the word usage and you know how I'm a big fan of telemetry.
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For Business Central, which they also call usage, it's really telling you in a Power BI style of format what people are doing, what they're actually using in Business Central.